Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Luther and the Catholic

‎"How do I receive the grace of God?" The fact that this question was the driving force of [Luther's] whole life never ceases to make an impression on me. . . . The question: what is God’s position towards me, where do I stand before God? – this burning question of Martin Luther must once more, doubtless in a new form, become our question too. . . Luther’s thinking, his whole spirituality, was thoroughly Christocentric: "What promotes Christ’s cause" was for Luther the decisive hermeneutical criterion for the exegesis of sacred Scripture. This presupposes. . . that Christ is at the heart of our spirituality and that love for him, living in communion with him, is what guides our life. (Pope Benedict XVI, Sept. 23, 2011)

13 comments:

Teresa Beem said...

I remember leaving the RCIA class and sobbing with joy. Our RCIA teacher referred to Luther as "Blessed Luther."

I couldn't imagine an example of "love thy enemies" as poignant as this because Luther had called the pope the antichrist.

I asked the teacher why and she replied that the church always loves, even when rejected. Luther was excommunicated but once a priest, always a priest.
She explained that Luther was right in some ways. He was called to help reform the church. His sin was walking away, not calling for change.

Still said...

Teresa,

Luther didn't walk away, he was kicked out. This is a notable difference.

Teresa Beem said...

Still,

That is a matter of interpretation. When you deliberately act in a way that will get you ex-communicated and call your church leader the antichrist....

Still said...

Teresa,

Of course, I could say the same thing. It is a matter of interpretation. When a church leader deliberately behaves in such a way that will get him criticized and called anti-christ...

You see, it was easy!

The fact remains that Luther was kicked out by the Catholic church and it was not him who walked away.

So, it would be good that the facts be correctly presented and not distorted.

Hugo Mendez said...

As Theresa noted, this is open to interpretation. The Reformation was a traumatic, but complex and nuanced, experience. For instance, Luther publicly burned the letter warning him of the possibility of excommunication in contempt, along with a copy of canon law. This is hardly the action of one sorrowfully "kicked out," though it would not be entirely accurate to say he "walked away" either, seeing as he was excommunicated by an institutional response of the Church.

But all that is old history.

This post it is not about that history. It is about the modern Catholic appreciation of Luther, and above all, the heartfelt question, "Where do I stand before God?" We must capture the insight that, "Christ is at the heart of our spirituality and that love for him, living in communion with him, is what guides our life."

And Theresa, your presentation of your RCIA class is very similar to mine. I was touched by the emphasis on "love" in your account.

Teresa Beem said...

Still,
Wow... I sense from you some defensiveness over some peripheral wording.... as if the wording were purposefully meant to distort history. They were certainly not.

As Hugo wrote, I was pointing out the love I found in the RCIA class for one of what the Catholic Church would see as their lost sheep. Even the quote from the pope expresses our grief at losing Luther and admiration of the Reformer's faith.

That is a good thing, for us to quit demonizing those who disagree with us and embracing them as Christians, no?

Time to stop the divisions in Christianity and unify as one Body of Christ--that the world will know we are Christians by our love, one for another.

Still said...

Teresa,

First, you sensed it wrong if you thought that I was on the defensive...

But,second, I don't think that this "peripheral wording" is unimportant. I think it is revealing of a distorted view of history that prevent love to be expressed in a truthful context.

Don't get me wrong here. Love is good. But love in truth is better.

(I didn't mean to derail your train of thoughts here as what you said was very interesting. It is just that details matter for me)

Teresa Beem said...

Sounds as if you wish to argue interpretation of history, not facts. The Catholic perspective and the Protestant perspective may use the exact same incidences and interpret them differently. Both need to be listen to for a good understanding of history.

Jon said...

I agree with Still here. Martin Luther was a heretic. He was excommunicated by the Catholic Church. Heretics never want to leave the Church, they always wish to convert it to their unholy doctrines and blasphemous modes of thought.

I can agree that Luther walked away from Catholic doctrine, however, he was excommunicated and was pushed out of the Catholic Church. Thanks be to God.

The Church should not be praising Martin Luther and trying to pick the good out of his doctrine, but rather condemning this impious instrument of the Devil. But, this is the state of these modern Vatican ecumenists.

The Lady Dragon said...

I would hardly call Pope Benedict XVI a modern Vatican ecumenist. Thr position of the Church is always love, for the Church is the reflection of Christ. Likewise, the position of God is always love, But even in the face of God's overwhelming, universal love throughout all of time and eternity, Hell remains a reality. Do we forgive Luther? We must. Can we save him from his just deserts? Never.

Still said...

Fortunately, Luther's salvation doesn't depend on your opinion Lady Dragon.

The Lady Dragon said...

True, Luther's salvation doesn't depend on my opinion (for which he should fervently thank God), but how about Jesus' opinion?

Mark 9:42
And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

Jon said...

Benedict XVI is hardly a Vatican ecumenist? I disagree, he is probably one of the most notorious ecumenists in the history of the Catholic Church. At the VII Council he was known for his association with radical liberals who presented the "new theology" in opposition to Thomism, such as Karl Rahner, Hans Kung and others who had been singled out by pre-VII Popes as liberal theologians. He prays with false religions, says he "esteems" false religions, and even says he "loves" false religions. How much more ecumenical does it get?